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NPT Capitol: Shapleigh: 10,000 have moved from Juarez to El Paso as Drug War pushes into U.S.

So far, 10,000 Mexican nationals have moved from Juarez to El Paso in order to escape the drug war, which is increasingly reaching up into America, said state Sen. Eliot Shapleigh this morning.

Shapleigh was speaking to the committee on Transportation and Homeland Security, a committee he sits on in the Texas Senate.

Shapleigh spoke about the resignation of the Juarez police chief earlier this month, after cartels threatened to kill one police officer every 48 hours. After his resignation, cartels put posters up along Juarez’s main highways declaring they would now kill the mayor within 48 hours. Shapleigh, citing press reports, said the mayor of Juarez has since moved to El Paso.

According to Shapleigh, in addition to the 10,000 Juarez residents living in El Paso, 140,000 Americans live in Juarez and 4,000 El Pasoans commute from north to South everyday.

Shapleigh called the situation “serious” and would require an “appropriate and measured response” from the state of Texas as the drug violence was beginning to reach right “up the transportation corridors” (I-10, I-35) to places like Phoenix and Atlanta. As such Shapleigh said the committee needed daily updates on the situation in Mexico. Shapleigh offered to prepare such a brief, providing clips from Mexican national dailies for his fellow committee members.

While Chairman John Carona did not ostensibly take Shapleigh up on the offer, or admit the graveness of the situation, he praised Shapleigh as the Senate’s “expert on these issues.”

Shapleigh’s remarks were the last thing discussed by the committee before it adjourned.

–Ben Wright

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Written by newspapertreeelpaso

February 25, 2009 at 10:19 am

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  1. Why wouldnt they move to El Paso? The so called leader moved here and they simply followed him.
    He should resign immediately, he abandoned his people and his city.

    There is nothing we can do for Juarez until they are willing to help themselves. Juarez is their city not ours. Tighten up security on the border at the crossings and elsewhere. I am sensitive to what is happening there but we cant do it for them.

    Rey

    February 25, 2009 at 11:32 am

  2. Anytime I see the name Shapleigh, it reminds me of that ego maniac Dumbocrat.
    Regarding the Mexicans, why do they have a right to move into our neighborhoods? Do not we have immigration laws. They are taking over our city.

    Richard

    February 25, 2009 at 12:17 pm

  3. I give Sen. Shapliegh high marks for addressing relevant issues when ever he can.

    two thumbs up

    February 25, 2009 at 1:05 pm

  4. It’s too late, Juarez business people started the push 15 years ago. Friends and family have since followed. Now this is another push from the south that includes the elements of death and torture. I’m not gonna say the sky is falling but we need to be extra vigilant with our schools and other public facilities. I’m sorry to say it has spilled over and that it will not get better until 2012. That’s my prediction.

    checho

    February 25, 2009 at 1:21 pm

  5. Rey and Richard, I can’t believe the blatant ignorance and mental immaturity on both your parts. Rey, if you kept up with statistics, over 60% of the drug use IN THE WORLD is consumed here in the ol’ US of A! Our country is pushing the demand. If there was not this HUGE demand on our “holier than thou” side, then Mexico wouldn’t be in the predicament they are in. The demand for drugs on this side of the border is the unspoken part of the issue. And because we generate the damand, this violence on the border is our problem. Those who buy and do drugs in America ALL have the blood of these 6,000 people who are dead ON THEIR HANDS. And Richard, it seems that your poliical analysis of Shapleigh is based off the Disneyland mentality that you show here. Really sophisticed, dude…

    Cristina Ramirez

    February 25, 2009 at 2:09 pm

  6. The ignorace is magnified by the lack of understanding of what the true issue is.

    Of course when one doesnt have confidence in their point or nothing of substance to say, simply resort to insults.

    So now it is the US’s fault that there are criminals in Mexico. The true cause is that there are criminals elements on both sides of the border. One is just as guilty as the other. That was the misguided statement ever made.

    Now the Nacro Terrorists are the victims. Criminals are criminals and will sell whatever to whoever. If it wasnt drugs, it would be something else. Just as kidnapping for little as 200.00 dollars has become the new criminal money maker in Mexico, that nothing to do with the drug trade.

    Rey

    February 25, 2009 at 5:24 pm

  7. When Shapleigh makes up information like this, it hurts his credibility and it hurts the city.

    From the KVIA story: “A spokesman for Shapleigh said the Senator collected them ‘anecdotally’ from people he knows in the real estate and business communities and admitted they are not an official tally.”

    Richard

    February 25, 2009 at 9:24 pm

  8. We are busy helping other countries rebuild, across the world, but we cant even secure our own borders. I think the soldiers in Ft. Bliss should be deployed to border and stop these idiots from coming across into this country. Where is the war on drugs, and homeland security?

    thetusk

    February 26, 2009 at 5:02 am

  9. Rey, I think you misunderstand the issue. It’s quite simple: You might not like drugs, but other people do. Let’s stick to marijuana to keep it simple.

    In what way do you have the right to tell other people what they can or cannot do? Don’t bring up those tired arguments about the children or about driving under the influence — I agree there ought to be penalties for giving drugs, any drugs, to include alcohol and tobacco, to children. And driving impaired ought to be penalized. Simple. So those arguments do not apply. We’re talking about an adult making the choice to smoke marijuana.

    The way I understand freedom in this country, the burden is on the government and the prohibitionists to explain how the societal harm justifies using the massive police powers of the state against its own citizens. That burden has not been met, not by a long shot.

    There is no evidence anyone has ever overdosed from marijuana. There is no evidence marijuana is more addictive than coffee, and there is evidence it is less addictive than alcohol, tobacco, or heroin. It is not a narcotic, although ignorant people who lack understanding of the issue often refer to it as such. This is simply made up language, which is irrational. Making stuff up is bad public policy on its face.

    You can argue that it is a gateway drug, but that’s reductive reasoning — anyone who does harder drugs like heroin or cocaine probably smokes tobacco, drank alcohol, and watched Sunday morning cartoons as well. If someone wants marijuana now, unless they grow it or know someone who does, they go to the sellers, who also have the other stuff available, so I could argue that these laws are actually pushing someone further than they’d go on their own.

    The thing is, kids are smart, and once they realize all this is crap, it makes them wonder about other elements of the system. Hypocrisy breeds discontent. It hurts our children more than the truth would: Marijuana is like any other drug. You use it too much, it’s not good for you. You use it as an emotional crutch. It’s not good for you. And so on.

    Now, the cost: Prohibition has given rise to a massive police apparatus, a massive prison apparatus, and immense profits the Mexican cartels now are benefitting from. They have made, literally, billions.

    If I’m doing a cost-benefit analysis of what it’s cost us to maintain marijuana prohibition v. the potential harm to society if it were decriminalized or legalized, I’m thinking any real conservative would realize, quickly, that this just doesn’t make sense in a freedom-loving country like the U.S.

    And you talk about ignorance and lack of understanding of the issue?

    — Sito

    epmediagroup

    February 26, 2009 at 8:51 am

  10. I like a discussion where one person not only asks the questions but answers them. Very uncanny how you know what I am going to say before I do. And whether I dislike drugs. Bold assumptions.

    The issue, if you bother to read the comment maker remarks, was that it was the US fault, because of the drug demand. Hence, the reason for all of Mexico’s problems.

    The REAL issue is that Mexico has a Narco-Terrorist problem along with a long standing problem of corruption. The criminal activity is rampit on both sides of the border.

    Why dont we just legalize all crime and then we can state,there is no crime. As for the idealogy link, this has nothing to do with the issue. It is not liberal or conservative, it is a criminal issue.

    As long as there is oversimplication of the problem, it will continue. cant ignore the fact that these Nacro Terrorist are trying to take control of a govt and expand their horizons whether it be drugs or OTHER things. Ever hear of slave trafficing, stolen human organs, stolen stocks, cars etc. Even ship hijacking.

    Study the world wide problem of Nacro Terrorism and for that matter other types of terrorists and their goals. Perhaps then the realization that the problem is not so simple will set in.

    Rey

    February 26, 2009 at 9:49 am

  11. In a totalitarian state, something is a crime just because the government or the esteemed leader calls it so. In a freedom-loving country such as ours, the government has the burden to prove something ought to be considered a crime. Some things are obvious, such as physical harm to another. Other things that are less obvious must be carefully evaluated. Marijuana, in particular, has not been. So you can keep calling marijuana use a crime just because the government calls it such.

    I never said there is no criminal enterprise. I think we ought to go after criminals who harm others, and criminal organizations that threaten civil stability. At the same time, we ought to take a hard look at the threat to stability. I believe that we have played a role in giving the cartels greater power, and harmed our own traditions of civil liberty, through the ever-escalating Drug War. I think there is a better public policy.

    Simple was a reference to the logic involved in assessing the situation. Of course, untangling the social, political, law enforcement, military and civil ramifications will not be easy. Or, we can just go house to house in Mexico and arrest or kill anyone suspected of being a drug dealer or somehow involved in the cartels, and we can drug test every U.S. resident and put everyone who has used drugs in jail.

    We can also stop domestic violence by sending police door-to-door every night.

    Ok, Rey, the floor is all yours. I have work to do.

    — Sito

    epmediagroup

    February 26, 2009 at 12:08 pm

  12. ok, although dont agree with you, that was a much better case for your view.

    Rey

    February 26, 2009 at 12:21 pm

  13. Senator Shapleigh please wake up they are building a wooden horse in Juarez and its pointed towards EL PASO, TEXAS, USA.

    big ed

    March 4, 2009 at 6:59 pm


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